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The ‘Clean Energy’ Stalking Horse

Weekly Standard -- They’re not calling it a carbon tax or cap and trade. But make no mistake, the national “clean energy” mandate introduced earlier this month by Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) and eight cosponsors entails both a tax and a trading measure.

Bingaman’s legislation has the apparent support of the White House. A day after the bill was introduced, Nat Keohane, a special assistant to the president for energy and the environment, called it “an important step towards the president’s goal of doubling clean energy by 2035.”

By 2035, the bill requires that at least 84 percent of all electricity in the United States be produced from “clean energy” sources. Put another way, coal will be limited to no more than 16 percent of domestic electricity generation. That’s a drastic reduction given that coal-fir


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kc58veteran
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:55:39 PM

toxigas said:
Several countries in Europe are well on their way to achieving a clean energy economy.

China will do it; they've already pulled ahead of the U.S.

National energy security means moving upward and onward from fossil fuels. The U.S. military has already figured this out and has a plan.

AGREE!
BazooQC
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:55:08 PM

Of course they are not going to call it a tax!
But I call it fleecing.
ccrb
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by any other name. We have to vote the bums out.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:50:42 PM

CLEAN ENERGY???

Yah..Right!!
2khawk
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:50:32 PM

Vote them out!!! This country needs no more taxes on anything. Washington needs to stop spending money it doesn't have.
gws2980
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:49:56 PM

We need to clean up their act
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:48:48 PM

I burn less gas now who can I sell my carbon credits to?
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:47:16 PM

Oh.
Papa_Gallo
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:42:05 PM

Marxist misery for everyone, except the privileged ruling class and their bodyguards.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:41:24 PM

ok
mplato
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:39:57 PM

no such think as clean energy....just another term like global warming trying to take hold
balljars
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:39:29 PM

Say no to Obama. This will cost us to much.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:38:48 PM

More right wing crap!
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:34:31 PM

Okay.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:34:17 PM

remember obama came in gas was at $1.74 now $4 he wants gas at $5-6 a gallon he trying to force American into his little green cars with our tax dollars wasted on green technology and green jobs he has to go we need the USA 1 again not a I'm sorry for everything country I LOVE America i hate what obama is doing to it
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hmmmm
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These guys from the progressive left want to put the USA out of business!
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Get these people out of office ASAP!
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:23:46 PM

Leave it to the Democrats to try and sneak in another tax on the people.
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Has anyone ever noticed that anything to do with a new tax comes from the demoCRAPS?
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We have lots of coal. Use it along with nuclear.
TRAIN RIDER
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We are making decisions about the future that we know nothing about. Along with Obama's 55 mpg for cars this will increase the cost of a vehicle where people will struggle to buy one. But he doesn't care since he has enough to buy what he wants and right now the taxpayer is supporting him.
Shakleelady31
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:16:51 PM

Finally, an article that tells the truth. Wake up, people! This administration calls it an important step and they're right! One more step in making government richer with our money! Shoot down this bill before it even gets to the white house.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:14:09 PM

Good.
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Hum! Don't know what to think about this.
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Go figure. We have a lot of coal.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:11:59 PM

We will have to get of oil eventually...might as well start that transition now.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:10:23 PM

carbon tax = government cash grab,,, bad for everyone. And no benefit for the environment
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in 1995 they declared victory over smog; then they found they were out of a job and have been continuously tightening emission standards ever since.
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuy...
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:05:35 PM

Ok
milespergallon
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Hope the state of New Mexico has sense enough to remove their anti-American senator!
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:02:33 PM

No government mandates!
OGW
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 7:01:50 PM

Carbon Taxes are just another way to make the rich richer not a method to clean the environment.
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The United States is losing the trade war and to implement this bill gives aid to the enemy. Criminal and treasonous.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:59:36 PM

It is not only the Pres's fault. His ear is being bent by his "advisors" also many who have their own agenda in the background.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:59:07 PM

How much more corrupt can we get?
knot2swift
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:57:34 PM

Great for clean energy. Can you spell "Voted out off office" for those that brought in on far too early|!


[Edited by: knot2swift at 3/25/2012 6:58:03 PM EST]
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Two term limits for all politicians.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:54:11 PM

Agree with carpenter4u...they're for the EPA, and their own pocketbooks.
carpenter4u
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this administration is not "for the People"
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:46:42 PM

I agree with gasokie
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:45:21 PM

Irresponsible legislation introduced by idiots.
Tucker1961
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:44:25 PM

These dumbies are giving people license to raise prices. Crazy
seahawks
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:42:42 PM

true statement!!!
race2IT
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:42:33 PM

No new taxes, read our lips.
TXHUNTER1
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:41:28 PM

And what is the cost?
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Get a rope.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:35:00 PM

Lol gasokie!
gasokie
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:32:55 PM

These guys and President Obama should be required to take a 9th grade general science course again. This time pay attention to that part about mass and energy etc.
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2012 6:32:50 PM

Would be very expensive.
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