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Can You Stockpile Gasoline? Thursday, August 07, 2008
Slate -- Gas prices dropped to an average $3.871 a gallon on Tuesday after a two-week stretch of declining prices. Is it possible to stockpile cheap gas before the prices go up again? Yes, but you have to be very, very careful. If you don't do it right, your stash of gasoline might spoil or blow up. For safety reasons, the EPA discourages consumers from storing more than 1 to 5 gallons, and the National Fire Protection Association proposes a limit of 25 gallons. Local fire codes determine whether your stockpile is legal: In New York City, for example, you can't keep more than 2.5 gallons.
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	Thursday, August 07, 2008 Slate -- Gas prices dropped to an average $3.871 a gallon on Tuesday after a two-week stretch of declining prices. Is it possible to stockpile cheap gas before the prices go up again? Yes, but you have to be very, very careful. If you don't do it right, your stash of gasoline might spoil or blow up. For safety reasons, the EPA discourages consumers from storing more than 1 to 5 gallons, and the National Fire Protection Association proposes a limit of 25 gallons. Local fire codes determine whether your stockpile is legal: In New York City, for example, you can't keep more than 2.5 gallons. Visit Slate for full article

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POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/24/2008 1:04:30 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	don't mow her
STEVE853 All-Star Author Florida Posts:814 Points:237,570 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: 8/24/2008 11:06:36	Ignore STEVE853 Report Abuse
	You need to have gas for the mower.
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,843 Points:703,225 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 8/24/2008 8:47:58	Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse
	I have heard that gas mixed with oil for 2 cycle engins will last a long time. But I still add stable to mine for the boat motor and snowblower. I have used it more than 2 years after mixing it with out any problems, yet.
tizbowwow Veteran Author Illinois Posts:490 Points:92,410 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/24/2008 8:24:38	Ignore tizbowwow Report Abuse
	sounds scary to me
gas101CA Sophomore Author Orange County Posts:224 Points:15,900 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 8/23/2008 5:53:49 PM	Ignore gas101CA Report Abuse
	some time i will do it my friend does that
jim92065 Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:145 Points:30,925 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/20/2008 10:57:48 PM	Ignore jim92065 Report Abuse
	I hate to say it, but I do, too.
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:874 Points:183,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/20/2008 9:06:05 PM	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	POLELANE I always enjoy your comments.........................
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/20/2008 4:00:17 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	microwave it if it gets stiff
childoftibet Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,176 Points:15,555 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/19/2008 11:03:39	Ignore childoftibet Report Abuse
	jim92065 Thanks for the explanation, I understand a little better. Based on what you say, I don't believe we should stockpile .. sounds a little dangerous.
dmatte85 Rookie Author Louisiana Posts:97 Points:10,230 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/19/2008 12:45:14	Ignore dmatte85 Report Abuse
	good idea. with the price of gas falling for now this will cause more people to stockpile and the prices will go right back up because demand will be higher.
MikeyGriz Sophomore Author Louisiana Posts:180 Points:17,600 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/18/2008 2:07:19 PM	Ignore MikeyGriz Report Abuse
	Buy your own gas station and store it in the underground tanks!
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/18/2008 12:08:11 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	A. D. DO
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:874 Points:183,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/15/2008 9:13:17 PM	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	yes
jim92065 Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:145 Points:30,925 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/15/2008 2:10:15 PM	Ignore jim92065 Report Abuse
	childoftibet, Gasoline is made of several different compounds. Some are more volatile than others, meaning they evaporate faster. The more volatile compounds are also the ones that make gas vaporize and combust better. As gas ages, the more volatile compounds, obviously, evaporate faster than others and change the chemical composition of the gas -- eventually rendering it useless. Another chemical problem is oxidation. Oxygen, from the atmosphere, can also change the physical properties of the gas, forming new compounds. This, and evaporation, turn gasoline into varnish. You may say, "Well I have an airtight container, so my gas shouldn't evaporate or oxidize." If you have a truly airtight container (which you won't get at your local auto parts store), then it will help stored gas last longer. Be aware that the volatile compounds have much smaller molecules that "air," per se. They can still leak from an "air-tight" container. There should also be a way to vent overpressure. There are other factors to consider, such as moisture accumulation in the gas, but the main reason you can't store it is the change in chemical composition. There are ways to make stored gas last longer, such as adding fuel stabilizers, using specialized containers, etc. Unless gas skyrockets very high in the near future, though, these would cost much more than the savings in stored gas.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/15/2008 12:13:08 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	yep, do dat
childoftibet Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,176 Points:15,555 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/15/2008 10:46:52	Ignore childoftibet Report Abuse
	don1222 I didn't know gas could go bad. At the risk of appearing ignorant, how is that possible? This female isn't very knowledgeable about gas and oil and fluids that go in my car. My mechanic takes care of all those things every 3,000 miles and my husband takes care of them in between. Maybe I should read up on this stuff. But, to my credit I can change a tire. LOL
jim92065 Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:145 Points:30,925 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/14/2008 4:40:42 PM	Ignore jim92065 Report Abuse
	POLELANE, En Ingles, por favor.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/14/2008 12:41:52 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	wrong mini magdumb; store it in lotsa dem, beverly hillbilly cars lying around the city of anhells
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:874 Points:183,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/11/2008 8:10:51 PM	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	The long and short of it is NO
Don1222 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:622 Points:35,555 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/11/2008 6:47:59 PM	Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse
	The problem with buying large quantities of gasoline it it goes bad. Not like the cheap stuff at 5/$1.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/11/2008 3:12:10 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	not so; big dollar risk; buya buncha 70 road warriors cheap; store 30 gallons in each tank
jim92065 Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:145 Points:30,925 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/11/2008 2:43:47 PM	Ignore jim92065 Report Abuse
	Buy oil on the commodities market. It's safer than stockpiling actual gasoline or oil.
magnumCA All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:874 Points:183,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 11:55:04	Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse
	seems unsafe
Bill313 Champion Author Kansas City Posts:4,913 Points:681,540 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 8/9/2008 12:43:48	Ignore Bill313 Report Abuse
	I would think that it could be done with enough room and the proper equipment
gasboygary Rookie Author Kansas Posts:10 Points:279,050 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 6:39:57 PM	Ignore gasboygary Report Abuse
	I love these people who say gas goes "BAD". What the heck does that mean? I keep 40-50 gallons around all the time. Just dumped 6 gallons in my boat the other day that I bought over 6 months ago. Boat ran GREAT. Gas going bad is a myth. I have NEVER had that happen. I will buy your "Bad" week-old gas from you for 50 cents a gallon to take it off your hands! LOL! Do I save alot of money doing this? Probably not. But it makes me feel better knowing I can my more when it's cheaper and a little less when it's higher. [Edited by: gasboygary at 8/8/2008 6:42:46 PM EST]
MetroSexual Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,532 Points:140,950 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 3:28:31 PM	Ignore MetroSexual Report Abuse
	For RoboRobby: If you really have a stockpile of water from 1999, dump it -- water your plants with it, rinse your car with it. Water goes stale after a couple of years. And be sure to wash the container with a diluted rinse of bleach before refilling. You would be shocked at what can grow and is growing in some of the water around the country. Yes, even tap water.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,518 Points:154,125 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 12:37:59 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	must do it right must do it right must do it right
GasholeMI Veteran Author Lansing Posts:268 Points:37,275 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:59:52	Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse
	I can not believe gas will go bad after a week or so. I know several people who fill up and then drive so seldom that they will not fill up again for several months. Besides, I use mower gas every spring after the mower has been put away for the winter.
FawltyPawl Sophomore Author North Carolina Posts:201 Points:31,625 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:03:16	Ignore FawltyPawl Report Abuse
	any idea how many gallons of gas are stored in a city of say 50,000 people?
SomeChick23 Sophomore Author Edmonton Posts:140 Points:80,125 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 11:01:41	Ignore SomeChick23 Report Abuse
	please not in the city...
FawltyPawl Sophomore Author North Carolina Posts:201 Points:31,625 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:52:48	Ignore FawltyPawl Report Abuse
	Exxon does.
alpenami123 Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:165 Points:26,245 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:47:54	Ignore alpenami123 Report Abuse
	your stash of gasoline might spoil or blow up
imnotadufus Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,140 Points:44,560 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:46:01	Ignore imnotadufus Report Abuse
	"..your stash of gasoline might spoil or blow up." -Really? LOL- Oh boy.
Mooseman1 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,612 Points:229,390 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:45:50	Ignore Mooseman1 Report Abuse
	Good advice.
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,836 Points:746,060 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:44:26	Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse
	Funny, but we did it in the 70's. We had a 500 gallon tank and gas cost us just under 40¢ a gallon by buying it that way at that time. The tax alone today is 40¢.
mahenv7 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:780 Points:159,085 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:41:00	Ignore mahenv7 Report Abuse
	we, as a consumer lose anyway.. The money is sitting there and losses its value
TheSultan Sophomore Author Rochester Posts:132 Points:46,850 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:40:53	Ignore TheSultan Report Abuse
	I'm sure this would only be worth it for someone with a large fleet--not an average consumer grade vehicle.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,474 Points:346,115 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:39:32	Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse
	storing 1 to 5 gallons of gas is not a stockpile. It's called a gas can.
Drill_It Veteran Author Michigan Posts:261 Points:36,375 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:35:34	Ignore Drill_It Report Abuse
	More Speculation.
mvosevich All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:896 Points:186,330 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:33:39	Ignore mvosevich Report Abuse
	It's all speculation. How do you know when gas is going to go up or down. Gas does go bad after time. If you sit on it to long waiting for the price to go up you may end up losing. You would be better off in the stock market. If your house doesn't burn-up first.
ramboTX All-Star Author Dallas Posts:643 Points:124,270 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:31:38	Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse
	Gasoline is very volital. If it is in an open container, it dispense into the air. It is heavier than air and will travel which ever way the wind or breeze blows it and stay low to the ground. If it is a very light breeze and the vapor remainstogether, it can explode with the slightest spark. Diesel has a much higher flash point. Gasoline is very, very dangerous. It is like a bomb.
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:4,134 Points:1,033,370 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:28:12	Ignore Lengas Report Abuse
	Risky
OKRifle All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:789 Points:164,380 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:27:40	Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse
	Not a wise idea!
rogerparry All-Star Author Florida Posts:919 Points:207,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:27:16	Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse
	Stockpiling isn't a good idea.
Barry Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:55 Points:1,649,375 Joined:Apr 2002	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:27:01	Ignore Barry Report Abuse
	The portable gas can I bought from the store is 6-gallon size. If they allow the store to sell 6-gallon gas can, I should be allowed to store 6 gallons of gas. Am I right?
RoboRobby Rookie Author Dayton Posts:39 Points:6,470 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:26:27	Ignore RoboRobby Report Abuse
	people have been stockpiling since the y2k scare. Hmmm maybe I will after I finally get through all those gallons of water from 1999 in my basement.
Blackice Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,392 Points:439,975 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:24:41	Ignore Blackice Report Abuse
	Sounds like BO would love people to run out and start stockpiling gas, so they can say that the demand is up and they can start raising prices again.
brutus Champion Author Alberta Posts:1,332 Points:853,105 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:21:47	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	Not too smart if you live in a city.
tz2001 Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:105 Points:207,690 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:20:55	Ignore tz2001 Report Abuse
	Shucks, just as I was planning on installing a 500-gallon tank this article comes out. It just goes to show you it's always something.
Rivermedic Veteran Author Fort Worth Posts:419 Points:77,305 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 8/8/2008 10:19:21	Ignore Rivermedic Report Abuse
	It would cost too much to buy the storage tank.