Petrock

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 6:10:44 AM
OPEC just wants it all - very high output and very high prices. Somehow they have missed the connection between very high prices and economic collapse so no one has money to buy their oil.
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Petrock

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 6:09:50 AM
OPEC just wants it all - very high output and very high prices. Somehow they have missed the connection between very high prices and economic collapse so no one has money to buy their oil.
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Hunter724

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 6:00:59 AM
Make OPEC illegal .........
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harleydoctor

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:46:28 AM
OPEC- forever a thorn in our side....
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:43:14 AM
Whose monitoring their output anyway. OPEC is the only one who cares how much their member countries pump & sell because they are each allocated a portion of expected sales.
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jimraehl

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Utah
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:41:53 AM
They want to maximize their ripoff.
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ILVET

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:33:13 AM
Whatever they do they will follow the money trail
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:31:39 AM
This gets to be complicated. Lowering production to meet lessening demand means stable pricing. But then that results in excess capacity that can be sold under the table. Oil could become the world's biggest black market substance. And then what happens to pricing? When some countries tried 'official' exchange rates for their currency. Back door sales amounted to billions. Oil could mean trillions in off-the-books exchanges.
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TIGERPAW46

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:14:20 AM
You can be sure if Venezuela wants to maintain output instead of cutting, It's not to help the USA. Maybe to line their pockets better or help Iran they've budded up with now.
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hwnguy

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:06:40 AM
Price fixing
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twobroke61

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:02:03 AM
if they would keep the price of oil down when they say that the economy is recovering and let it get fully recovered before they raise the price they would see the differance
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hybridaholic

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 5:00:37 AM
More manipulation at a higher level.
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rtw777

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:45:03 AM
Supply is not the problem.
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MidnightSun

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:41:59 AM
They both should lower crude oil prices to alleviate the World Recession
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ThatHunt

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:33:41 AM
not surprising
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katmandue

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:32:21 AM
more of our money going to support dictators.
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jackson661

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:31:43 AM
Have to admit we need the output to be maintained or increased fr the USA.
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computernut2008

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:27:32 AM
Screw OPEC
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:21:42 AM
I don't like much that Venezuela has ever done but I do hope they convince OPEC to keep oil production up.
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:20:58 AM
Venezuela must really be missing all that money they were making last year, so are a lot of Americans.
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CrackedLCD

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:09:40 AM
Who cares what Venezuela wants? ;)
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ED6

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:09:36 AM
They should cut production and we'll who's hurting.
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w4kh

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:02:29 AM
Venezuela wants the quotas to stay up so they can produce more oil than their quota and keep things smooth at home... We should send an "Arnold Veto Letter" to Chavez!
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sosgas

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Portland
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 4:01:11 AM
Oil has rallied 72 percent this year !!!!!
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:59:04 AM
and the beat goes on and on and on !
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saveongasNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:52:47 AM
Buy less pay less!
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snappyray09

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:48:44 AM
OK.
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Dancin

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:41:13 AM
sure it does.
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findcheap

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:27:41 AM
Venezuela needs more money
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gass12

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:16:38 AM
They will not cut production getting over $75.00 a barell.
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PetroScopper

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Houston
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 3:05:09 AM
It doesn't really matter one way or the other, sooner or later the prices are going to fall.
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:54:00 AM
greed, that's all
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:52:09 AM
From the article: "Oil has rallied 72 percent this year as investors use the commodity as a hedge against a weakening dollar and the global economy emerges from the deepest recession since the 1930s."
This is one of the many reasons to get us off of any oil from OPEC.
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speedys

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Utah
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:48:19 AM
More BS.
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ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:46:09 AM
They can add to production for all I care.
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IamWhoIam

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:42:02 AM
I am beginning to think the best thing for Venezuela would be no more Chavez who really wants all of this. He has not shared the profits with his people because it is still a semi-dictatorship. It should belong to all the people there and yes, that is a sort of communistic view but I have been to Venezuela, a very, very beautiful and very poor country with vast differences between the majority and the ricos.
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spike1zz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:40:23 AM
Who really cares what they want
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BigDogOH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 2:34:27 AM
Drill here ,drill now.Tell OPEC to eat sand!
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